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Title: Virtual MRAPs- for triple the price? Post by: Rattler on 19 July 2010, 05:45:52 As a guy who currently does not know what his animals have to to eat next (or if he does, wonder whether it will kill them as it is half year over due date) I really get worked up about getting on top of it (I still pay taxes, if not rent) scammed big time by I-do-not-even-know-whom and with soooooo much "chuzpa"....!!! :gj: thx2 urock
The scammers devise (beaurocrats behind it?) interesting schemes, here one of the last that made my "hair stand to mountain" as our German first President once mentioned (of cause in total disknowledge of proper English; but if "football play we better than you" (http://www.warandtactics.com/smf/the-lounge-get-a-beer-go-off-topic/the-omnipresent-currently-playing-%28music%29-thread/680/) works, why not his structure? smallclap ), check for yourself: Raydon Corporation of Daytona Beach, Florida. (http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4321) just made 36 millions from the tax payer. Nothing wrong with that, no? Free Capitalism, budget ridded administartaion et al? You are right on track buy then, was anybody elected during consulting on this waste of money/ressources (erhmmm, cant reall you call it like that:I see this as "mission completed", everybody in the chain made some bucks for sure)?: Total contract value $36,355,550 through Nov. 30, 2011. For what? For 11 MRAPs simulators "to train drivers" (when the real thing only costs a third): Quote do the math. Raydon’s getting $3.3 million per virtual MRAP trainer. That’s at least three times as much as it costs to make an actual MRAP. In fairness, now that the military’s been paying to manufacture MRAPs for about five years, it’s probably easier and cheaper to make them than it is to make new virtual trainers for them. But Raydon also makes training modules for Abrams tanks, Bradley Fighting Vehicles, Humvees and assorted other ground-pounder hardware, so it’s not like they don’t know how to do this. That’s not to pick on the company: poring through the fiscal 2010 Defense bill, it appears that Congress put in over $11 million in earmarks to fund MRAP trainers for the National Guard. Read More [url]http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/07/daily-pentagon-jackpot-virtual-mrap-edition/#ixzz0u60e93bY[/url] ([url]http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/07/daily-pentagon-jackpot-virtual-mrap-edition/#ixzz0u60e93bY[/url]) Anybody can explain why this happens over and over again (not only in US, in Germany we had 1980 some standard toilet seats for the army wich cost us 1.250 DM per seat - in the supermarket the same model cost 19 DM...) and somehow nobody ever seems to be getting a grip? Anopther one, a bit older, everybopdy cold have learnt if this was the goal: Quote Remember those famous Pentagon hammers and toilet seats that cost nearly $1,000? One would think the federal government would have learned its lesson: government agencies, especially huge ones like the Pentagon, need close monitoring lest they flush the taxpayers' money down their very expensive toilets. Well, with the above it looks they all keep flushing, and ourselves starving... hdbng :champ: Rattler Title: Re: Virtual MRAPs- for triple the price? Post by: the_13th_redneck on 20 July 2010, 06:50:10 These defense companies and their agents in uniform are THIEVES
Title: Re: Virtual MRAPs- for triple the price? Post by: Rattler on 20 July 2010, 07:35:06 ...though training seems to be necessary, the MRAPs seem to have thier own dangers, mainly roll-overs and problems with their high antenna touching electic cables:
From the Army Times (http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/07/marines_MRAP_070108w/): Quote Three Green Berets drowned Saturday when their Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected vehicle rolled into a river in Afghanistan. The deaths come amid growing concerns about the threat of catastrophic rollovers in the military’s silver bullet solution to improvised explosive devices. Two military reports issued in June indicate growing problems associated with the MRAPs’ potential for rollover — as well as electrocution, when the vehicle snags low-hanging power lines — and an emerging threat from the vehicle’s glass dissolving into a cancer-causing powder when struck with explosively formed projectiles. -snip- A June 13 report by the Marine Corps Center for Lessons Learned, written by Col. Monte Dunard, indicates concerns about the bulky, top-heavy vehicle rolling over in combat zones. Marine officials declined requests to elaborate on the findings, but the report speaks to relatively recent acknowledgement of problems with the MRAPs. Of the 38 MRAP accidents between Nov. 7 and June 8, only four did not involve a roll-over. Many of the incidents ended with troops suffering injuries, and an April 23 roll-over led to the drowning death of two soldiers. The report suggests that conditions leading to the April 23 incident appear to be common. The weight of the MRAP, up to 30 tons depending on the model and equipment upgrades, prompted the road to collapse and the MRAP to roll over into a canal. Rattler |