NCO Club: Off Topic Discussions => The Lounge - Get A Beer & Just Chatter Away => Topic started by: Koen on 1 April 2010, 20:37:43



Title: Shame on you sir ( with a very small 's')
Post by: Koen on 1 April 2010, 20:37:43
Henk, did you already heared about this shameful act?
Former General, 35 years of service and then doing/telling something like this?

Shame on you boy  :reddevil:

gen sheehan clip.mov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-A1LNw9eRg#)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Sheehan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_J._Sheehan)

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In March 2010 he testified under oath to the US Congress that according to the chief of staff of the Dutch army at the time of the incident, the fall of Srebrenica was caused by lack of readiness related to the Dutch being more concerned with internal 'socialisation' of the military than fighting capacity. Sheehan blamed it mainly on the homosexual men serving in the military. During the same testimony, Sheehan stated that gays weakened the army, while attraction between men and women in gender-integrated units would not.  Sheehan testified a non-existing Dutch general by the name of 'Hankman Berman' told him they lost the battle because of the gays. Speculation has it that Sheehan meant General Henk van den Breemen, Dutch chief of staff at the time of the Srebrenica genocide. General van den Breemen denied having said such a thing and called Sheehan's comments "total nonsense".  Dutch Minister of Defense Eimert van Middelkoop stated that Sheehan's statement was "disgraceful," "unworthy of anyone in the military".  Prime-Minister Jan Peter Balkenende of the Netherlands stated that Sheehan's words are "shameful", "outrageous", "beneath contempt" and "disrespectful towards all troops involved".  Dutch advocates of gay rights, organized in the "Pink Army" (foundation) and the Stichting Homosexualiteit en Krijgsmacht ("Foundation Homosexuality and Armed Forces"), announced a libel lawsuit against Sheehan, demanding public apologies, and Sheehan following sensitivity training. The majority of the Dutch parliament voiced their support for the class action.

On March 29, 2010 Dutch media reported that Sheehan had sent an e-mail to his Dutch collegue General Henk van den Breemen in which he apologized for his comments. He stated that his memory of the conversation was inaccurate.



attraction between men and women in gender-integrated units would not: yeah right, so gays are 'screwing' around and heteros are all saints? so when a hetero guy puts on his uniforms he becomes totally 100% uninterested in women? but....those gay guys they just.....damn....stupid people like that do get me on my heels  :behead:


Title: Re: Shame on you sir ( with a very small 's')
Post by: FACman on 1 April 2010, 21:40:34
Give em a break Koen, the world is getting much to close for the Homo phobes... :whistle:


Title: Re: Shame on you sir ( with a very small 's')
Post by: Koen on 1 April 2010, 22:32:30
Give em a break Koen, the world is getting much to close for the Homo phobes... :whistle:


it's not only about being homophobic but also his comments on the performance of the Dutch forces and the 'why' and 'what' about the things that happened there....


Title: Re: Shame on you sir ( with a very small 's')
Post by: FACman on 2 April 2010, 10:11:01
Once again, I can only plead for tolerance of this poor, mis-informed/behaving General who most likely is actually a closet gay, elsewise why would he stretch the truth so deeply to fit his view of the world, he is in denial and really, really afraid. Facts have no place in a discussion whose genesis is from unfounded fear.  hihi


Title: Re: Shame on you sir ( with a very small 's')
Post by: stoffel on 2 April 2010, 16:23:59
yeah I know.
Silly fool.
It was my former bn, airmobile infantry.
there were no homos around in that unit, and even if they did, so what...... >:(


Title: Re: Shame on you sir ( with a very small 's')
Post by: the_13th_redneck on 14 April 2010, 03:41:11
Probably people he works for wanted a statement or something out of him.